During your first election campaign I was a Gary Lewis supporter. You were new on the scene and Gary had accomplished a few things I wanted to see happen. As I sat talking to Gary one day at his election camp, some of the things he said about you started to not add up on how I perceive you. His criticisms of you were not being based in politics and I started looking at him differently.
After you won the election I became quite pleased with the way you conducted yourself on the Board of Supervisors and with your constituency. That's why I prefer local politics not based on parties and affiliations, it makes it easier to vote for people with ideas and vote based on performance rather than platforms.
However, recently, for whatever reason, you seem to not be as interested in hearing what our constituency has to say or to be as involved in the community as you have been in the past.
When the marijuana growers from another county moved in behind my house and started putting up 8-foot fences, burying watering tanks, grading, installing solar and gas generators, and taking up residence under tents, you did not seem too concerned when I contacted you about it via an e-mail.
Now when one of your constituents gives you a long detailed letter about what's going on in their neighborhood and looks to you for help, please understand they will become quite concerned when your answer in a reply e-mail is a short, “‘Yes, these things are popping up all over.’ – Denise Rushing.’”
I stared at that short e-mail for a while and thought, “What the heck?” I really wanted an opinion from you on the subject, and even a short- and long-range plan to deal with it. I thought that was how politicians handled their constituents.
Later that day I stopped by at a neighbor’s house and was talking about your e-mail. They said they had also contacted you with little success concerning a next-door neighbor who was moving in junk cars and generally making a wreck out of the neighborhood.
They received a note from you that said, “Well, you can't tell people how to live.” We were both puzzled because this didn't sound like the Denise Rushing that we come to know. The Denise Rushing we knew wanted to clean up blight and make Lucerne and Nice look a lot better.
After the resounding defeat of Measure D the voters sent a clear message to the Board of Supervisors saying, “Deal with this.” Sixty-six percent of your voting public wants you to crush this problem and give minimal legal rights to people growing marijuana for medical purposes. The voting public wants you to greatly limit collectives growing in the area in any legal way you can.
I may be wrong, but when I see you as a part of the advisory committee and listen to your views in the Board of Supervisors meetings, it appears you are trying to take a position somewhere in the middle.
Now I know you've had a rich full life and probably met many people who grow marijuana for purposes other than medicinal. I realize you probably know that these people would love to game the medical marijuana system or do what I call piggybacking for purposes of profit. Nowhere in Proposition 215 or SB420 does it mention profit.
Please, in all your future dealings I'd love to see you toughen up and become the person you were when you are fighting for your constituents in the water problem in Lucerne at the beginning of your Lake County political career. I genuinely like you and think you are a fine person, and would love to see you return to your fighting form and fight for the majority of your constituency while protecting the rights of the medical marijuana user by pushing back hard against the criminal element wanting to join it.
You've noticed in one of the last Board of Supervisors meetings when the people showed up to testify from Middletown and Kelseyville how frightened and disappointed the real constituency of the Board of Supervisors is.
You've learned that most of the people that are growing marijuana in the neighborhoods are exceeding the amount needed to satisfy their medical requirements.
You've learned that many of these people that are growing marijuana are not being good neighbors. You saw evidence of death and destruction to animals and the potential of death and destruction to human beings because of these bad neighbors.
Now as you said, “You can't tell people how to live.” However, if you want people to listen to your suggestions and be good neighbors you can control how they live by limiting with law.
Cut down the number of plants to the bare legal minimum reducing the need for guard dogs that these people can control, the need for weaponry to protect the large amount of plants and the other suggestions that the urgency ordinance offers. Personally, I see no reason we would ever need to change the urgency ordinance. People needing medicinal marijuana never had a supply problem or demand problem previously.
There is a time to negotiate and perhaps you see your position on the advisory board that of a negotiator.
Please remember that you do not have to play the middle; your constituency would like to see you negotiate for us and we believe due to the 66 percent to 34 percent mandate that you hold all of the cards.
Greg Cornish lives in Nice, Calif.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 26, 2012
That's why no-one raises tomatoes indoors I guess. $5,000 Tomatoes. 
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written by anonymouse, July 25, 2012
Under the ban, all of the 762 dispensaries registered in the city will be sent letters ordering them to shut down immediately. Those that don't comply may face legal action from the city.
The new ordinance will allow patients and their caregivers to grow and share marijuana in groups of three people or fewer. But activists complain that few patients have the time or skills for that, with one dispensary owner saying it costs at least $5,000 to grow the plant at home.
$5,000? There is just no end to the lies those people will tell
The new ordinance will allow patients and their caregivers to grow and share marijuana in groups of three people or fewer. But activists complain that few patients have the time or skills for that, with one dispensary owner saying it costs at least $5,000 to grow the plant at home.
$5,000? There is just no end to the lies those people will tell
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 24, 2012
This will really show the Legislature the impact the idiotic SB 420 is having. Might even get the concrete jungles to empathize with smaller counties.
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written by ca215, July 22, 2012
Excuse me?
I do not understand you. Does this: "I don't care"
written by Greg_Cornish, July 21, 2012
"Where you go, where you shop or where you get prescriptions. and or recommendations. I'm sure you feel the same."
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mean that I feel the same as you, when you say your words above?
Wrong. I care a great deal where I go, where I shop, etc. Here is something else for you to not care about: the phrase "None of your business."
I do not understand you. Does this: "I don't care"
written by Greg_Cornish, July 21, 2012
"Where you go, where you shop or where you get prescriptions. and or recommendations. I'm sure you feel the same."
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mean that I feel the same as you, when you say your words above?
Wrong. I care a great deal where I go, where I shop, etc. Here is something else for you to not care about: the phrase "None of your business."
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 21, 2012
Where you go, where you shop or where you get prescriptions. and or recommendations. I'm sure you feel the same.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 21, 2012
You are just saying I am. I said "if" in my first sentence and spoke in general terms after that. You love feeling like you are being persecuted and attacked I guess.
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written by ca215, July 21, 2012
seems to enjoy stepping over the line and making unfounded statements regarding people he does not know:
(Quote): "@ CA215. Yes, while 99% of doctors follow the rules about the use of handicap placards there are some like a certain doctor in Upper Lake where you may have purchased your medical marijuana recommendation," (End quote)
NO. I did not purchase a MMJ recommendation in Upper Lake. Had you asked me, I might have told where I got it. Then again, because I am so inconsiderate, I may not have answered you because where I choose to spend my income is not your business.
(Quote): "@ CA215. Yes, while 99% of doctors follow the rules about the use of handicap placards there are some like a certain doctor in Upper Lake where you may have purchased your medical marijuana recommendation," (End quote)
NO. I did not purchase a MMJ recommendation in Upper Lake. Had you asked me, I might have told where I got it. Then again, because I am so inconsiderate, I may not have answered you because where I choose to spend my income is not your business.
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written by ca215, July 21, 2012
...still is claiming I sit in the car in a Disabled space while someone else does my shopping for me.
I surely would like to see those words written under my username. Perhaps G_Cornish will be kind and point them out?
I surely would like to see those words written under my username. Perhaps G_Cornish will be kind and point them out?
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 21, 2012
The person with the placard is going to stay in the car while others shop for them they should not use handicapped parking. If they do, they are inconsiderate and wasting space. If you are sitting in the car, there is no more comfort than there than there is anywhere else.
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written by ca215, July 21, 2012
Copy: @ca215
written by Greg_Cornish, July 20, 2012
I fInd a shady spot and let someone who needs it have it. If you aren't getting out you a waste Of good space. My God you are inconsiderate.
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Just what in your world did I do/say that was so inconsiderate? Where did I say I wasn't getting out? You do not know me, so NO I AM NOT A WASTE OF GOOD SPACE.
Nor am I inconsiderate. For all I know you are one of the drivers of vans, arriving at a cross walk at about the same time I arrive...who manage to look surpised when I motion to them to go ahead without their having to sit there and wait for me to get across the street. But I'm inconsiderate.
I've mentioned here beauties who dash through aisles, don't control their children who run unattended through stores, and practically trip over my chair. Which I'm operating carefully, before you question the safety of my operating the chair. I've looked at the racing person and smiled, backed up, said "Excuse me," and had to listen to her snarl "Yes! You chair people are always in my way!!"
But I'M inconsiderate.
It seems you do not pay attention to what you read. I said that I do sometimes ask my helper person to let me out of the car near the front doors of stores and go to find a parking space. With her help I get to where the carts are --- if any are available. If there are no carts I have to go through the store(s) on foot and do my best to stay out of the way of able people...my being so inconsiderate makes it so I move slowly on foot. I'm SO sorry.
Are you aware that most stores which supply in-store electronic carts will not give permission for the carts to be taken out of the store to a waiting car?
I've written when you were not paying attention that my powerchair will not fit into the car. So with her kind help, I make it aided by my cane and with a hand either on her shoulder or on the handle of the shopping wagon, to where the space was found for the car...with my disabled placard hanging from the rear-view mirror.
I manage on a monthly pittance to pay bills and bring a few groceries into the house. I know, there are places which give bags of food away to those who need it but because I sort of manage I don't go to the food give-aways. I leave them for those people who are economically worse off than I am. But I'm inconsiderate.
I'd suggest that the next time you wish to fling around rude words and accusations you'd be looking in a mirror. It's stunning that you say you understand people who are judgmental. Who's inconsiderate now?
written by Greg_Cornish, July 20, 2012
I fInd a shady spot and let someone who needs it have it. If you aren't getting out you a waste Of good space. My God you are inconsiderate.
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Just what in your world did I do/say that was so inconsiderate? Where did I say I wasn't getting out? You do not know me, so NO I AM NOT A WASTE OF GOOD SPACE.
Nor am I inconsiderate. For all I know you are one of the drivers of vans, arriving at a cross walk at about the same time I arrive...who manage to look surpised when I motion to them to go ahead without their having to sit there and wait for me to get across the street. But I'm inconsiderate.
I've mentioned here beauties who dash through aisles, don't control their children who run unattended through stores, and practically trip over my chair. Which I'm operating carefully, before you question the safety of my operating the chair. I've looked at the racing person and smiled, backed up, said "Excuse me," and had to listen to her snarl "Yes! You chair people are always in my way!!"
But I'M inconsiderate.
It seems you do not pay attention to what you read. I said that I do sometimes ask my helper person to let me out of the car near the front doors of stores and go to find a parking space. With her help I get to where the carts are --- if any are available. If there are no carts I have to go through the store(s) on foot and do my best to stay out of the way of able people...my being so inconsiderate makes it so I move slowly on foot. I'm SO sorry.
Are you aware that most stores which supply in-store electronic carts will not give permission for the carts to be taken out of the store to a waiting car?
I've written when you were not paying attention that my powerchair will not fit into the car. So with her kind help, I make it aided by my cane and with a hand either on her shoulder or on the handle of the shopping wagon, to where the space was found for the car...with my disabled placard hanging from the rear-view mirror.
I manage on a monthly pittance to pay bills and bring a few groceries into the house. I know, there are places which give bags of food away to those who need it but because I sort of manage I don't go to the food give-aways. I leave them for those people who are economically worse off than I am. But I'm inconsiderate.
I'd suggest that the next time you wish to fling around rude words and accusations you'd be looking in a mirror. It's stunning that you say you understand people who are judgmental. Who's inconsiderate now?
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 21, 2012
I rarely see cards without a placard parked in handicapped zones. However, on occasion in the past, I have been turned in or ticketed for not displaying mine. It simply takes a phone call or a letter to the courts to get out of it without paying any fine at all. You only need to tell them your name and placard number along with an apology and any judge will understand. I've never heard of being fined for an honest mistake.
On one occasion in the 1980s I called DMV after seeing a woman who seemed to be a little to frisky go into a stre in SR. The man at the DzmV said she was using her husbands placard and called her an thretened she'd jeopardize it if she continued. I thought that was cool but I'm sure they don't do that any longer.
On one occasion in the 1980s I called DMV after seeing a woman who seemed to be a little to frisky go into a stre in SR. The man at the DzmV said she was using her husbands placard and called her an thretened she'd jeopardize it if she continued. I thought that was cool but I'm sure they don't do that any longer.
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written by anonymouse, July 20, 2012
to a Raiders game last year. The cop there said they write thousands of dollars in tickets every home game for people using placards that didn't belong to them. I think a good start to solving the problem would be to up the fine to thousands for using someone else's card. Second offence should be mandatory jail. I can't emphasize enough the need to take it easy on cars you see without a placard. Many of those using them are old and more likely to be forgetful
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 20, 2012
A handicap spot is a handicap spot. Leaving a van accessible space open would be a courtesy isd another is available. If not, its everyone for themselves.
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written by anonymouse, July 20, 2012
Are people that have a placard not allowed to park in the "Van accessable" spots? Is that the law? if a store only has "van accessable" spots do the people without buggies have to park in regular spots?
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 20, 2012
I fInd a shady spot and let someone who needs it have it. If you aren't getting out you a waste Of good space. My God you are inconsiderate.
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written by ca215, July 20, 2012
I, too, paid "good money" for the disabled placard for use when my IHSS person takes me in her car for shopping. But I paid that money to Lakeport DMV and truthfully didn't like having to pay for it any more than I appreciate having to pay for my State of California identity card I must carry or be hassled for not identitying myself..
But I digress. Of course there is not enough room in my caregivers' car for my powerchair and I have no wheeled chair so I'm glad that some stores have a few electronic carts for disabled people to use.
Not everyone understands that certain of the Disabled Parking Only spaces are meant to be accessed by drivers with vans. Yes I know that some of the spaces are labeled "For Vans." I guess some people WITH placards...hopefully legal, that was an eye-opener...are worried about their comfort or that of their passenger so use the space. I'll be careful to have her use the smaller space from now on; for all I know we might have parked in a Van Only space at some time in the past.
But I digress. Of course there is not enough room in my caregivers' car for my powerchair and I have no wheeled chair so I'm glad that some stores have a few electronic carts for disabled people to use.
Not everyone understands that certain of the Disabled Parking Only spaces are meant to be accessed by drivers with vans. Yes I know that some of the spaces are labeled "For Vans." I guess some people WITH placards...hopefully legal, that was an eye-opener...are worried about their comfort or that of their passenger so use the space. I'll be careful to have her use the smaller space from now on; for all I know we might have parked in a Van Only space at some time in the past.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 20, 2012
I hear what you are saying about being judgmental. I do know that sometimes people forget to put their placards on their dashboard or hang them from mirror mirror. I remember back to when they were still made out of paper and stated out in the sun and I had 9 warrants out for my arrest because they couldn't read my placard. It was easily taken care of with a letter.
However, please consider the fact that after 41 years in a wheelchair you can develop some pretty good instincts. I have had people yell at me when I ask them what their disability is, when it's obvious they have very little in the way of physical limitations, “Stop bugging me, I paid good money for that sticker.” I really didn't know how to take that. I've also had friends who did have physical limitations, and when they knew parking was limited and I was on my way there to meet them at a restaurant they would take the handicapped parking area even though there was something closer and they didn't need a 10 foot wide space. It's basically being inconsiderate. I'm very conscientious when I drop my wife off to go shopping that I don't sit in my car in a handicap spot when someone else might need it, but I see that take place all the time.
It's the thing that bugs me most, the use of the 10 foot wide spots by people who don't need 10 feet to exit their door when there is something closer to the building available. I once saw a newspaper article about, “Silent Disabilities,” that suggested it was okay to park in handicapped zones if you have issues with anxiety. You could nearly see the steam arise from the top of my head.
I saw some statistics once and I'll try to find them again that showed California and New York City used 10 times the amount of handicap placards per capita as any other places in the nation.
Having been one of the original organizers to gain accessibility and the use of handicapped placards I know what the original intent was and it is been watered down to great excess. Have you ever watch the old news reports from 10 to 15 years ago of the video by news stations asking people why they were using handicap parking? It always placed the people in a very awkward position and no one would ever confirm that they had a disability. They would just walk away.
On my 2nd or 3rd date in Minnesota with my current wife we parked in a handicapped zone in front of the Kmart store. We sat there talking with the engine running and a very large strong woman came up to my door and started screaming at me to get out of the handicapped parking spot. She explained how her husband used a wheelchair and she didn't think it was right for people like me to be using the spot. I smiled and pointed to my wheelchair in the backseat and told her I had a legitimate cause and showed her my handicap placard. She was terribly embarrassed and kept apologizing for her action. I had a hard time reassuring her that I was okay with it and actually appreciated the fact that someone stand up for what they thought was right and begged her to stop apologizing.
I've seen so much of this of this system I get a little caught up in it sometimes and may overreact.
@ CA215. Yes, while 99% of doctors follow the rules about the use of handicap placards there are some like a certain doctor in Upper Lake where you may have purchased your medical marijuana recommendation, that actually give them to anyone that has the money. There are many in San Francisco who will sell placards so people can park for free in certain areas and use handicapped zones. It's well known.
Since this thread seems to have run its course on medical marijuana don't think it's inappropriate to continue this conversation on something that closely relates to it.
However, please consider the fact that after 41 years in a wheelchair you can develop some pretty good instincts. I have had people yell at me when I ask them what their disability is, when it's obvious they have very little in the way of physical limitations, “Stop bugging me, I paid good money for that sticker.” I really didn't know how to take that. I've also had friends who did have physical limitations, and when they knew parking was limited and I was on my way there to meet them at a restaurant they would take the handicapped parking area even though there was something closer and they didn't need a 10 foot wide space. It's basically being inconsiderate. I'm very conscientious when I drop my wife off to go shopping that I don't sit in my car in a handicap spot when someone else might need it, but I see that take place all the time.
It's the thing that bugs me most, the use of the 10 foot wide spots by people who don't need 10 feet to exit their door when there is something closer to the building available. I once saw a newspaper article about, “Silent Disabilities,” that suggested it was okay to park in handicapped zones if you have issues with anxiety. You could nearly see the steam arise from the top of my head.
I saw some statistics once and I'll try to find them again that showed California and New York City used 10 times the amount of handicap placards per capita as any other places in the nation.
Having been one of the original organizers to gain accessibility and the use of handicapped placards I know what the original intent was and it is been watered down to great excess. Have you ever watch the old news reports from 10 to 15 years ago of the video by news stations asking people why they were using handicap parking? It always placed the people in a very awkward position and no one would ever confirm that they had a disability. They would just walk away.
On my 2nd or 3rd date in Minnesota with my current wife we parked in a handicapped zone in front of the Kmart store. We sat there talking with the engine running and a very large strong woman came up to my door and started screaming at me to get out of the handicapped parking spot. She explained how her husband used a wheelchair and she didn't think it was right for people like me to be using the spot. I smiled and pointed to my wheelchair in the backseat and told her I had a legitimate cause and showed her my handicap placard. She was terribly embarrassed and kept apologizing for her action. I had a hard time reassuring her that I was okay with it and actually appreciated the fact that someone stand up for what they thought was right and begged her to stop apologizing.
I've seen so much of this of this system I get a little caught up in it sometimes and may overreact.
@ CA215. Yes, while 99% of doctors follow the rules about the use of handicap placards there are some like a certain doctor in Upper Lake where you may have purchased your medical marijuana recommendation, that actually give them to anyone that has the money. There are many in San Francisco who will sell placards so people can park for free in certain areas and use handicapped zones. It's well known.
Since this thread seems to have run its course on medical marijuana don't think it's inappropriate to continue this conversation on something that closely relates to it.
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written by anonymouse, July 20, 2012
It's simple. The same models of medical morality that sell 215 "recomendations" for two to three hundred dollars a year to people with no documented medical condition will fill out the DMV app. for a fee as well.
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written by ca215, July 20, 2012
REALLY? Doctors sell Disabled placards to undisabled people?
I'm trying to figure out how that works, since it has long been my impresssion that Disabled placards....inscribed with a person-in-chair logo, numbered, stamped with an expiration date...are available only throught the DMV.
That's where I got the one I use when my IHSS person takes me in her car, anyway. And it was NOT free, DID require my presenting my CA I D card, also notes from my primary dr...so I'm sorry but could you when you have the time explain just how drs get (possible) stacks of placards to sell to patients?
If you know of one doctor who gets away with selling the placards, shouldn't all doctors be allowed to do the same?
I'm trying to figure out how that works, since it has long been my impresssion that Disabled placards....inscribed with a person-in-chair logo, numbered, stamped with an expiration date...are available only throught the DMV.
That's where I got the one I use when my IHSS person takes me in her car, anyway. And it was NOT free, DID require my presenting my CA I D card, also notes from my primary dr...so I'm sorry but could you when you have the time explain just how drs get (possible) stacks of placards to sell to patients?
If you know of one doctor who gets away with selling the placards, shouldn't all doctors be allowed to do the same?
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written by anonymouse, July 20, 2012
I appreciate what you said. First let me make it clear that I mean no disrespect by saying "buggy". I just prefer that term to wheelchair. Second, all you have to do is go to any large gathering and see the hundreds of placards to know that something needs to be change. The first thing would be have people get checked WAY more often to make sure the card is registered to them. Now, as for who you think should and shouldn't be using them at Bruno's I have a real problem with people judging the people who park in the handicapped parking spaces. Even if someone does not display a placard it doesn't mean they didn't just forget to put it up. I don't even have a problem with people questioning someones qualifications for having a placard. What I have a HUGE problem with is people deciding who should and shouldn't be parking in the accessable parking then standing around bad vibbing those they deem unfit. It simply is not your call. That is between them, the state of california, their doctor and their god.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 20, 2012
I was leading the charge in the 70s to get hadicappicapped parking spots because I use one of those buggies. Yes I have seen people literally run into a store after parking there and run out. What more do I need to assess? The proximity to the store for these spaces was based on a national average of weather and our brethren in the far north. I spent 21 years of my time in a wheelchair in MN when my buggy was nearly impossible to move across snow and the ruts. I lost many a thumbnail on a brake when my hand slipped off the wheel. When it wasn't snowing, it was often raining and you were soaked by the time you could get out of the car. It sometimes takes a full minut to get out of the car.
The wheelchair spots were all made to a standard 10 feet wide by ADA rule to allow folks to swing to door wide open to get their buggies ad walkers out of the door without scraping the car next t them.
Personally if the rules were changed so people with buggies had parking at the other end of the lot, it wouldn't bother me that much. I just need a spot to put my lift down where no one can ull up beide me and blok me out by the time I get back. I would however grumble during a deluge rainstorm.
Sometimes I miss the Midwest and rural east coast where there is still some integrity left and people wouldn't think of using a handicapped sticker unless absolutely necessary. I know many elderly people back there who really need them that would asp at the suggestion.
I know many other people who will use a handicap parking spot only because it's close to the door but pass up a spot that's closer when they don't need 10 foot parking pots in the first place. The whole thing is disgusting and needs to be re-thought.
The wheelchair spots were all made to a standard 10 feet wide by ADA rule to allow folks to swing to door wide open to get their buggies ad walkers out of the door without scraping the car next t them.
Personally if the rules were changed so people with buggies had parking at the other end of the lot, it wouldn't bother me that much. I just need a spot to put my lift down where no one can ull up beide me and blok me out by the time I get back. I would however grumble during a deluge rainstorm.
Sometimes I miss the Midwest and rural east coast where there is still some integrity left and people wouldn't think of using a handicapped sticker unless absolutely necessary. I know many elderly people back there who really need them that would asp at the suggestion.
I know many other people who will use a handicap parking spot only because it's close to the door but pass up a spot that's closer when they don't need 10 foot parking pots in the first place. The whole thing is disgusting and needs to be re-thought.
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written by anonymouse, July 19, 2012
I've been enjoying your posts lately bit you went a bit over the line on your last post. Judging peoples disability based on ten seconds of observing them walk, or as you say "run", into the store is a bit extreme. It's not possible for you to acurately assess someones disability in that short of time. I'm guessing you think anyone in a wheel chair has a right to park in the disabled parking spots but last I looked anyone can buy a used wheel chair for $10 or $15. Actually. now that we are on the topic maybe you can answer a question. Why are the parking spaces for wheel chair vans at the end of the lot closest to the store? Do those people really need to be taking up spaces right in the front of the lot? I mean thet are riding around in buggies. Right?
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 19, 2012
The same doctors that sell recommendations for marijuana without concern if people are sick or not sell handicapped parking stickers to people who are not handicapped. Sorry CA215 - your bird doesn't fly..
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 19, 2012
In regard to your comment about "never saw a healthier bunch of patients," SURPRISE: not every illness is visible to the eye. Should we who have an illness be forced to wear some sort of illness identifier letter such as "C" meaning cancer? Is every ill person's problem your business or concern?
As a quadriplegic I see people with handicapped stickers park in handicapped parking spots quite often and run into the businesses. Although I'm SURPRISED I still wonder what their disability is. Throughout SB420 it stresses the use of marijuana to be used for serious illnesses then following it waters down serious illnesses where anyone even claiming to have to need it can have it. Its a sham and you know it. But, more and more and more the public is seeing through the smoke screen and recognizing that growers are very good at scaring patients into believing that their medicine will be taken away if profiteers are not allowed to make their money hiding behind cancer patients.
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written by ca215, July 19, 2012
You have already said, and I among others have already replied to your: (quote) "Anyone having a need for marijuana as a medicine should also have their name on the card just as anyone buying any other drug has their name recorded when purchasing their meds."
At the dispensary I use, one day one I signed up as a member of the collective of which the dispensary is a part.
My photograph was taken and placed on a laminated member card I carry along with my dr's certification that I am a MMJ-benefitted patient.
I KNOW, you have claimed I have no such card because apparently you feel that you know what happens behind the doors of the dispensaries. Sorry G_C but you are still incorrect.
In regard to your comment about "never saw a healthier bunch of patients," SURPRISE: not every illness is visible to the eye. Should we who have an illness be forced to wear some sort of illness identifier letter such as "C" meaning cancer? Is every ill person's problem your business or concern?
At the dispensary I use, one day one I signed up as a member of the collective of which the dispensary is a part.
My photograph was taken and placed on a laminated member card I carry along with my dr's certification that I am a MMJ-benefitted patient.
I KNOW, you have claimed I have no such card because apparently you feel that you know what happens behind the doors of the dispensaries. Sorry G_C but you are still incorrect.
In regard to your comment about "never saw a healthier bunch of patients," SURPRISE: not every illness is visible to the eye. Should we who have an illness be forced to wear some sort of illness identifier letter such as "C" meaning cancer? Is every ill person's problem your business or concern?
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 18, 2012
After reading your commentary, I looked through my email responses to you and there were several in the thread including one where I wrote that I had called on both the sheriff and code enforcement regarding the grow in your neighborhood based upon the photos you sent. (followed up by my urgent plea to both departments to help out in your circumstance) I also indicated in my emails that the ordinance the Board unanimously passed last year needed to be rescinded due to the measure D initiative process. I prefer not to answer public forum comments, but wanted to set the record straight.
It appears to me that your commentary is not as much a complaint about my email response as it an attempt to suggest publicly that I don't care, and in doing so influence my position on this polarizing and complicated topic. You and anyone reading this can rest assured that I do care and that I will do my best to sort this out as fairly as I can, as I trust others on the Board will do as well.
As I said it is usually not my policy to comment online, so I will not be entering into a dialog in this forum. However, you or anyone else who wants to weigh in can email me at denise.rushing@lakecountyca.gov. I read them all personally.
Denise Rushing
You are correct. I was trying to influence your position and use this forum as a soapbox to change other peoples opinion. I make no apologies. I do however, after seeing your response to the situation want to commend you for your service and your reasoning and leadership. I realize my letter here didn't influence you and I take no credit for it.
You and I take different positions and methods to this as I take the position that the BOS take a no compromise stance as long as its within the minimum guidelines of CA 215 and SB 420 and feel both these laws should be repeal and rewritten by voters. However I do respects your thoughts and methods a much as my own. Thank God we are not all alike. A difference of opinion keeps the world turning.
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written by wthomas, July 18, 2012
Change a few of the details and you've accurately described what's happening in and around our neighborhood.
I attended a couple of the board of supervisors meetings regarding the marijuana problem. I stood just outside the entrance to the council chambers the day the supervisors postponed the vote on the newly crafted emergency ordinance. It was abundantly clear who the people are who organized the opposition to the ordinance. They are about as far from being medical marijuana patients as you can possibly imagine. (They were pretty proud of themselves when the delaying tactic worked, by the way.) These are individuals who make a lot of money off growing pot. The idea that they'd be there, putting in the time petitioning and lobbying, out of compassion for actual medical marijuana patients, is ludicrous. We're not talking about Mother Theresa here. And these are the folks who are attempting to make their profit under the guise of being "legal, concientious" growers. They, however, are providing cover for the cartel/mercenary types that come in from wherever and flat out rape the land with blatant disregard for any considerations other than their own profit.
The rules are still way too liberal here in Lake County. It is essential that until there is some means of making sure that the people who are allowed to grow their own pot actually have some legitimite medical need for it, the activity must be stopped. The parasites will continue doing what they're doing as long as opportunity exists.
The members of the board of supervisors are far from stupid. I think supervisors Farrington and Rushing acted in an honest spirit of compromise when it came down to negotiations on the urgency ordinance. I suspect they are now fully aware that compromise is not where the growers were ever coming from. It has always been about keeping the ball in the air so that they'd have time to bring in this season's crop.
It's about greed, pure and simple. With callous disregard for the community as a whole.
I attended a couple of the board of supervisors meetings regarding the marijuana problem. I stood just outside the entrance to the council chambers the day the supervisors postponed the vote on the newly crafted emergency ordinance. It was abundantly clear who the people are who organized the opposition to the ordinance. They are about as far from being medical marijuana patients as you can possibly imagine. (They were pretty proud of themselves when the delaying tactic worked, by the way.) These are individuals who make a lot of money off growing pot. The idea that they'd be there, putting in the time petitioning and lobbying, out of compassion for actual medical marijuana patients, is ludicrous. We're not talking about Mother Theresa here. And these are the folks who are attempting to make their profit under the guise of being "legal, concientious" growers. They, however, are providing cover for the cartel/mercenary types that come in from wherever and flat out rape the land with blatant disregard for any considerations other than their own profit.
The rules are still way too liberal here in Lake County. It is essential that until there is some means of making sure that the people who are allowed to grow their own pot actually have some legitimite medical need for it, the activity must be stopped. The parasites will continue doing what they're doing as long as opportunity exists.
The members of the board of supervisors are far from stupid. I think supervisors Farrington and Rushing acted in an honest spirit of compromise when it came down to negotiations on the urgency ordinance. I suspect they are now fully aware that compromise is not where the growers were ever coming from. It has always been about keeping the ball in the air so that they'd have time to bring in this season's crop.
It's about greed, pure and simple. With callous disregard for the community as a whole.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 17, 2012
As a speaker in favor of growing at the microphone at the Fairgrounds said and Denise Rushing echoed today, it is the living of some of Lake Counties residents. Now I feel sorry for someone who was dumb enough to take the risk to invest all that money in an illegal activity hoping they could make a big dollar only to find their dreams crashing down around them. I suggest that next year when the new ordinance is in place they find another line of work on the legal side of the fence.
Quite simply, this cannot be policed on a case-by-case basis as many of the speakers at the microphone at the fairgrounds requested. Lake County does not have the resources to do that. That's why all 5 supervisors unanimously agreed that any urgency ordinance had to be instituted. Not all 5 voted in favor of the final urgency ordinance but all 5 agreed it was necessary. And they were backed up by 66% of the voters.
Medical marijuana is legal in the state of California with a medical recommendation, however, throughout SB 420 it repeatedly stresses, serious medical conditions and the intent is clearly there. Even Tony Farrington who is working hard on the Medical Marijuana Advisory Board stated (something like) "It was clear after listening to the 7 hours of testimony that many of the people who wanted to grow marijuana were hiding behind the medical issue.”
What's needed is for more marijuana growers who actually grow marijuana for medical use to step forward and say, “We do not want the county code breakers and illegal growers invading our County. We just want to grow our own.”
People used to be afraid to hike into the national forests in fear of stumbling across a large illegal cartel grow with bungee sticks, alarms and armed guards attending the camp and grow site. Since SB 420 they are now afraid to walk outside the city limits because of camp armed guards guarding their grows. Medicinal Marijuana allowed the gamers of the system to move that environment into and around out towns. I've seen the change of traffic behind my house go from kids on motocross bikes, hikers, dog walkers and horseback riders go to backhoes, lumber delivery trucks, dirt delivery trucks and water trucks pounding the $1300 in gravel down into the dirt and bringing up the dirt and dust I was trying to eliminate when I spread the gravel. The kids on motocross bikes, hikers, dog walkers, and horseback riders number zero since the growers came.
Growers – stop hiding behind wheelchairs beds and cancer patients and admit what you are – profiteers.
Quite simply, this cannot be policed on a case-by-case basis as many of the speakers at the microphone at the fairgrounds requested. Lake County does not have the resources to do that. That's why all 5 supervisors unanimously agreed that any urgency ordinance had to be instituted. Not all 5 voted in favor of the final urgency ordinance but all 5 agreed it was necessary. And they were backed up by 66% of the voters.
Medical marijuana is legal in the state of California with a medical recommendation, however, throughout SB 420 it repeatedly stresses, serious medical conditions and the intent is clearly there. Even Tony Farrington who is working hard on the Medical Marijuana Advisory Board stated (something like) "It was clear after listening to the 7 hours of testimony that many of the people who wanted to grow marijuana were hiding behind the medical issue.”
What's needed is for more marijuana growers who actually grow marijuana for medical use to step forward and say, “We do not want the county code breakers and illegal growers invading our County. We just want to grow our own.”
People used to be afraid to hike into the national forests in fear of stumbling across a large illegal cartel grow with bungee sticks, alarms and armed guards attending the camp and grow site. Since SB 420 they are now afraid to walk outside the city limits because of camp armed guards guarding their grows. Medicinal Marijuana allowed the gamers of the system to move that environment into and around out towns. I've seen the change of traffic behind my house go from kids on motocross bikes, hikers, dog walkers and horseback riders go to backhoes, lumber delivery trucks, dirt delivery trucks and water trucks pounding the $1300 in gravel down into the dirt and bringing up the dirt and dust I was trying to eliminate when I spread the gravel. The kids on motocross bikes, hikers, dog walkers, and horseback riders number zero since the growers came.
Growers – stop hiding behind wheelchairs beds and cancer patients and admit what you are – profiteers.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 17, 2012
The fragrant flower of the marijuana that you mentioned in your comment has never visited our neighborhood. The smell of skunk from the marijuana plant visits every year and I've noticed this year the growers are staggering their grows so we will get the benefit of skunk much longer.
When I bought my home here in 1997 I didn't plan on living in an agricultural neighborhood or a pot growing neighborhood. These 2 guerrilla grows as I said, did everything without ever seeking a permit. They put up fences 2 feet taller than code, graded without permits, buried water tanks without permits and took up residence in the back of the pickup truck with umbrellas and folding chairs and no hygienic facilities. They were issued a stop work order in the very beginning before plants were in the ground by code enforcement. They resumed their work immediately, at night ignoring the stop work order. Water trucks deliver water once a week to invisible tanks. Fights break out in the camps occasionally and cars and motorcycles cruise fast and unsafely up and down the once quiet roads all night long.
Purely and simply, most pot growers are bad neighbors. They pay nothing into the system to fix the road I paid $1300 to fix up 1 year ago.
You can be assured that some businesses that supply wood, fertilizers, watering supplies and dirt to these growers are making good money. Outside of these supply businesses I doubt it carries much further than that. I really doubt that people living in campgrounds are keeping your clothing stores and restaurants and casinos open and or any other business unrelated to deliveries into really low grows. The other day I listened to a businessman who supplies the marijuana camps complaining because the Feds were stopping him from dumping his loads of lumber and dirt on federal land. My job dropped a few inches and I wondered how far people will go to keep their doors open. Will they ruin our national forests? Will they approve of selling marijuana to school kids if they keep their doors open?
This example of bad neighbors could be witnessed at the recent meeting at the fairgrounds. I saw a man who had just arrived, enter the building, hold the door for me, then turn and immediately start yelling insults at Rob Brown who was speaking, even before he heard what Rob Brown had to say. He was clearly there to disrupt. These people did not care about compromise or the difficulty about coming to compromise.
As both Denise Rushing and Tony Farrington said at the meeting they realized that a large contingency of the people they were dealing with on the growing side were hiding behind the medical marijuana patient and these people's most important objectives was to keep the controversy afloat for eternity and not to have a resolution. This in effect would make Lake County wide open for growing marijuana.
After today's meeting I have changed my mind about Tony Farrington and Denise Rushing. I now have to give them much more credit for seeing through the smokescreen that has been thrown out before them. I have nothing but admiration for Denise Rushing in spite of what she's been through to continue to try to reach compromise even though I think it is a very futile goal.
Medical marijuana has not been a positive contributor to the Lake County community. It has turned into this scourge of Lake County. Not at all because of the medical marijuana patient but because of the illicit growers who hide behind the beds, wheelchairs and cancer patients to make money.
When I bought my home here in 1997 I didn't plan on living in an agricultural neighborhood or a pot growing neighborhood. These 2 guerrilla grows as I said, did everything without ever seeking a permit. They put up fences 2 feet taller than code, graded without permits, buried water tanks without permits and took up residence in the back of the pickup truck with umbrellas and folding chairs and no hygienic facilities. They were issued a stop work order in the very beginning before plants were in the ground by code enforcement. They resumed their work immediately, at night ignoring the stop work order. Water trucks deliver water once a week to invisible tanks. Fights break out in the camps occasionally and cars and motorcycles cruise fast and unsafely up and down the once quiet roads all night long.
Purely and simply, most pot growers are bad neighbors. They pay nothing into the system to fix the road I paid $1300 to fix up 1 year ago.
You can be assured that some businesses that supply wood, fertilizers, watering supplies and dirt to these growers are making good money. Outside of these supply businesses I doubt it carries much further than that. I really doubt that people living in campgrounds are keeping your clothing stores and restaurants and casinos open and or any other business unrelated to deliveries into really low grows. The other day I listened to a businessman who supplies the marijuana camps complaining because the Feds were stopping him from dumping his loads of lumber and dirt on federal land. My job dropped a few inches and I wondered how far people will go to keep their doors open. Will they ruin our national forests? Will they approve of selling marijuana to school kids if they keep their doors open?
This example of bad neighbors could be witnessed at the recent meeting at the fairgrounds. I saw a man who had just arrived, enter the building, hold the door for me, then turn and immediately start yelling insults at Rob Brown who was speaking, even before he heard what Rob Brown had to say. He was clearly there to disrupt. These people did not care about compromise or the difficulty about coming to compromise.
As both Denise Rushing and Tony Farrington said at the meeting they realized that a large contingency of the people they were dealing with on the growing side were hiding behind the medical marijuana patient and these people's most important objectives was to keep the controversy afloat for eternity and not to have a resolution. This in effect would make Lake County wide open for growing marijuana.
After today's meeting I have changed my mind about Tony Farrington and Denise Rushing. I now have to give them much more credit for seeing through the smokescreen that has been thrown out before them. I have nothing but admiration for Denise Rushing in spite of what she's been through to continue to try to reach compromise even though I think it is a very futile goal.
Medical marijuana has not been a positive contributor to the Lake County community. It has turned into this scourge of Lake County. Not at all because of the medical marijuana patient but because of the illicit growers who hide behind the beds, wheelchairs and cancer patients to make money.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 17, 2012
For the last couple of years I have had a neighbor who raised marijuana behind their house in their small backyard. At a certain point in the year the plants were so tall that they were clearly visible above the fence. Myself, my neighbors and my friends coming up the hills to visit me had a good laugh over this. It never bothered me. These people are very good neighbors. They are quiet, responsible, take pride in their children and have raised them very well. They have children in the armed services.
Across the street from them were loud noisy neighbors who seem to ride their dirt bikes up and down the road 24/7. They let their dogs run and a cursed and screamed at the top of their lungs. When the house across the street opened up for rent their relatives moved in. They were louder and noisier than their friends across the street and the wife and husband had constant verbal and physical altercations. Both homes had marijuana prescriptions and the DEA paid a visit to their high school son one day. Both of these houses were totally destroyed by these growers by growing indoors, one beyond repair and the other one had to be repaired at a cost that must greatly exceed any income taken in during its years of rental. I would say it doesn't pay to advertise your rentals at San Quentin.
That same year a guerrilla grow set up 300 yards away from us. Without permits they graded, built garden boxes, denuded the land, (clear cutting it of Manzanita, Madrone, Oak and all other native species right down to bare ground) on a very steep slope of land exposing the land to immense erosion and diversion of natural waterways once the rains came. I'm quite sure this is the photograph that Denise Rushing is passing around at the board of supervisor meetings.
The next year we heard chainsaws again and noticed half a dozen men clear cutting more area just above the other grow. Both years we noticed 1000 gallon water tanks come up the hill on the backs of trucks and be offloaded by the grows. Within a couple of weeks those water tanks disappeared. We can only assume that they have been buried underground.
Across the street from them were loud noisy neighbors who seem to ride their dirt bikes up and down the road 24/7. They let their dogs run and a cursed and screamed at the top of their lungs. When the house across the street opened up for rent their relatives moved in. They were louder and noisier than their friends across the street and the wife and husband had constant verbal and physical altercations. Both homes had marijuana prescriptions and the DEA paid a visit to their high school son one day. Both of these houses were totally destroyed by these growers by growing indoors, one beyond repair and the other one had to be repaired at a cost that must greatly exceed any income taken in during its years of rental. I would say it doesn't pay to advertise your rentals at San Quentin.
That same year a guerrilla grow set up 300 yards away from us. Without permits they graded, built garden boxes, denuded the land, (clear cutting it of Manzanita, Madrone, Oak and all other native species right down to bare ground) on a very steep slope of land exposing the land to immense erosion and diversion of natural waterways once the rains came. I'm quite sure this is the photograph that Denise Rushing is passing around at the board of supervisor meetings.
The next year we heard chainsaws again and noticed half a dozen men clear cutting more area just above the other grow. Both years we noticed 1000 gallon water tanks come up the hill on the backs of trucks and be offloaded by the grows. Within a couple of weeks those water tanks disappeared. We can only assume that they have been buried underground.
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written by coexsist2012@hotmail.com, July 17, 2012
It is very clear as Denise Rushing pointed out numerous times at the public meeting, with supervisors regarding the Urgent Medical Marijuana Ordinance, that this is a topic that has very polarized views, and coming to a compromise would be difficult. The reality is that California made medical marijuana legal in 1996, and was to be the content of patient to doctor relationships. Another reality is that no matter how clean or organized or hidden a garden may be, those who dislike marijuana will always maintain an outdated and negative view towards it. The vast majority of complaints against medical marijuana, at July 9th's meeting, were the fragrance it released, unsightly fencing, and an increase in traffic. Unsightly fencing, yes, does not enhance the look of a community and is a dead give away-could be resolved with guidelines or requirements for having a garden; however, to some the fragrance given off by the marijuana flowers is very pleasant, and an increase in traffic would only indicate more people are moving to the county. Although there are those of you writing on here who do not agree about enjoying the fragrance, I DO NOT KNOW ANYONE who has spoken highly of the odor the lake gives off, and it has been smelling horrible from mid-June through August for many more years than medical marijuana has been prominent in Lake County. Nuisance issues, when everyone everywhere has something that irritates them.
The reality is that the urgent medical marijuana ordinance is an attack on anyone in Lake County who prepared themselves for another farm season. So many people in this county had almost all invested in their project, as do most small and large farmers at the beginning of any vegetable or fruit season, etc. The pots people need, dirt, nutrients, water, fencing, trellis, gasoline, propane, food, dog food, etc. There is no denying how much Kelseyville Lumber has expanded in the past 5 years, how busy each Mendo Mill in the county is everyday, how busy Walmart, Kmart, Wells Fargo and the grocery stores are everyday, how many other remodels, expansions, casinos and other new businesses that have come to Lake County just in the past 3 years.
A man from Cobb who works in marketing for local companies, who spoke at the public July 9th meeting, said that nearly 50% of Lake County business owners say staying afloat is largely due to the medical marijuana grows; and I think it was Ron Green and actually another who stated that 30-40% of Lake's economy is largely due to medical marijuana.
It is straight denying what is true and in front of our eyes to say that the people involved in medical marijuana farming are in no way contributing to our local economy. Lake County is beautiful, it has some of the best air quality in the nation, has uninterrupted sunlight all summer, and other than just a few large corporations, it still remains main street America in my opinion; small business owners making up this economy.
Medical marijuana has been a positive contributor to the Lake County community. There will always be people who will forever be caught up in the anti-Reefer Madness. But the truth is that it is God or whatever higher power you have, given, it has saved people from the slavery of harmful Opiates and Barbiturates medications, which can and have caused over doses, addictions, and other injuries; and medical marijuana is legal in the state of California with a medical recommendation.
The reality is that the urgent medical marijuana ordinance is an attack on anyone in Lake County who prepared themselves for another farm season. So many people in this county had almost all invested in their project, as do most small and large farmers at the beginning of any vegetable or fruit season, etc. The pots people need, dirt, nutrients, water, fencing, trellis, gasoline, propane, food, dog food, etc. There is no denying how much Kelseyville Lumber has expanded in the past 5 years, how busy each Mendo Mill in the county is everyday, how busy Walmart, Kmart, Wells Fargo and the grocery stores are everyday, how many other remodels, expansions, casinos and other new businesses that have come to Lake County just in the past 3 years.
A man from Cobb who works in marketing for local companies, who spoke at the public July 9th meeting, said that nearly 50% of Lake County business owners say staying afloat is largely due to the medical marijuana grows; and I think it was Ron Green and actually another who stated that 30-40% of Lake's economy is largely due to medical marijuana.
It is straight denying what is true and in front of our eyes to say that the people involved in medical marijuana farming are in no way contributing to our local economy. Lake County is beautiful, it has some of the best air quality in the nation, has uninterrupted sunlight all summer, and other than just a few large corporations, it still remains main street America in my opinion; small business owners making up this economy.
Medical marijuana has been a positive contributor to the Lake County community. There will always be people who will forever be caught up in the anti-Reefer Madness. But the truth is that it is God or whatever higher power you have, given, it has saved people from the slavery of harmful Opiates and Barbiturates medications, which can and have caused over doses, addictions, and other injuries; and medical marijuana is legal in the state of California with a medical recommendation.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 15, 2012
I'm 65 from a town of 350 people in Southern Minnesota brought up by potato salad and corn on the cob eating Lutherans - pretty much Lake Wobegon style. I'll never seek office so I don't need to watch my PC and I only stopped calling her "The Ole Lady" a few years ago. Give me another 35 years and I'll be Californiaized.
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written by ca215, July 15, 2012
Greg_Cornish: "The" wife? My gosh what is your age? I haven't heard that paternalistic phrase used by anyone since the mid 1950's.
But okay. If the person who is married to you doesn't mind being referred to as "the" wife, who am I to quibble?
WHICH of the words I wrote do you and your wife not understand, please? Are the not-understood words nouns, pronouns, verbs, adjectives, or described by other terms? "The" typer here would appreciate some clarity if you do not mind. If it is possible for me to provide the clarity you say you and your wife need, I will do so.
I do now see in my post headed "Amazing" that I mistakenly added an "e" to my word "us." I am terribly sorry.
Same post, I do see that I began writing about depression and got sidetracked into fibromyalgia. Again I am sorry; I learned long ago that depression can be, and all too often is, part of fibromyalgia.
That illness...I'm talking about "the" fibromyalgia again, Greg...is often painful and that pain is often eased by MMJ. I am writing those words because I have had decades to learn about the varying facets of fibro and/or myalgic encephalomyelitis and, if you and your wife are not familiar with either illness or anyone who has either one or both, it's likely you never heard before about the pain or depression easing capabilities of MMJ. I do not claim that MMJ will help all who have fibromyalgia and/or myalgic encephalomyelitis. That would be silly; Rule 1 which is understood by those of us who have either or both ailments is "Everybody's different." That means what works to help one person might not do anything at all for another person. Rule 2 is "See Rule 1."
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Nscale: I have used "ca215" since 1996, Nscale. Sorry if it "makes you wonder" about me. I do not wonder at all about you and your choice of user name. More precisely, I do not care.
But okay. If the person who is married to you doesn't mind being referred to as "the" wife, who am I to quibble?
WHICH of the words I wrote do you and your wife not understand, please? Are the not-understood words nouns, pronouns, verbs, adjectives, or described by other terms? "The" typer here would appreciate some clarity if you do not mind. If it is possible for me to provide the clarity you say you and your wife need, I will do so.
I do now see in my post headed "Amazing" that I mistakenly added an "e" to my word "us." I am terribly sorry.
Same post, I do see that I began writing about depression and got sidetracked into fibromyalgia. Again I am sorry; I learned long ago that depression can be, and all too often is, part of fibromyalgia.
That illness...I'm talking about "the" fibromyalgia again, Greg...is often painful and that pain is often eased by MMJ. I am writing those words because I have had decades to learn about the varying facets of fibro and/or myalgic encephalomyelitis and, if you and your wife are not familiar with either illness or anyone who has either one or both, it's likely you never heard before about the pain or depression easing capabilities of MMJ. I do not claim that MMJ will help all who have fibromyalgia and/or myalgic encephalomyelitis. That would be silly; Rule 1 which is understood by those of us who have either or both ailments is "Everybody's different." That means what works to help one person might not do anything at all for another person. Rule 2 is "See Rule 1."
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Nscale: I have used "ca215" since 1996, Nscale. Sorry if it "makes you wonder" about me. I do not wonder at all about you and your choice of user name. More precisely, I do not care.
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written by norcalex, July 14, 2012
I just read your story on Catfist Ed's web page. Thank you so much for posting it, it was very powerful. I will be sharing it with everyone I know that has or uses a boat. Sorry about being off topic but I don't know another way ro contact you.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 14, 2012
ramping up in environments where they should exist and proliferate.
Should read... "ramping up in environments where they should NOT exist and proliferate."
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 14, 2012
I'm a former Gary Lewis Supporter. He abused his privileges as a County Supervisor, financially and politically. I would give Denise Rushing an A overall as a County Supervisor. I my disappointments with her on this single issue. I think she's intelligent and a fine lady. However I stand by what I wrote. The jury is still out how her and Tony Farrington handle the negotiations on the advisory committee. I think, after the resounding defeat of Measure D they are giving away their cards to quickly.
I don't like the fact that there was such a Laissez-faire attitude while these guerrilla grows were ramping up in environments where they should exist and proliferate. I received a short note recognizing there were and had to join forces outside of my district to get aid in stopping it.
"Tacky" would be a personal attack or showing private photos or delving into family skeletons. Exposing perceived political shortcomings is fair game.
I don't like the fact that there was such a Laissez-faire attitude while these guerrilla grows were ramping up in environments where they should exist and proliferate. I received a short note recognizing there were and had to join forces outside of my district to get aid in stopping it.
"Tacky" would be a personal attack or showing private photos or delving into family skeletons. Exposing perceived political shortcomings is fair game.
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written by dogwalker, July 14, 2012
Tacky tactics to call someone out publicly who is doing a very good job for the county, and is likely one of the most intelligent and compassionate persons that has sat on lcbos in a very long time.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 14, 2012
How dare they outlaw Foie Gras. Don't they now that it will cure neuritis, neuralgia and headaches? It's even making me walk again. How dare they take away my medicine.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 14, 2012
I thought I was the only one to ever use my real name on here. It was my only distinction. Now you stolen some of my thunder. 
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written by Nscale, July 14, 2012
Great idea Greg, except it would be one of the others that rambles on and uses weird reasoning.
Besides, any one who uses ca215 as a handle I kind of wonder about.
Ken Price
Besides, any one who uses ca215 as a handle I kind of wonder about.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 13, 2012
The wife and I were wondering if you have an interpreter that could rewrite your ramblings so we could all understand them. It would be very helpful.
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written by ca215, July 13, 2012
Whew, I comply with Greg_Cornish's county residency and identification demands. That's great; no nightmares about doors being broken in the middle of the night and such demands as "Show me your papers!" being heard.
Sorry, wrong nightmare. That one up there has to do with the holocaust.
Sorry, wrong nightmare. That one up there has to do with the holocaust.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 13, 2012
If it was clearly and undeniably written into law that anyone growing Marijuana had to reside in the county and all people included in a collective had to reside in the county in which the marijuana was being grown. Without that, an undue burden is being placed upon the Code Enforcement Department, Law Officers Department and Roads Department. This is above and beyond the existing burden of grows that make no monetary contribution into the government system that wineries and orchards pay in taxes and permits. It's a 100% sweetheart deal.
The lawmakers representing concrete jungles make laws that affect unpopulated areas more than their own. If stringent laws aren't made and enforced in Lake County the news will spread to counties with higher land prices and a money driven, not medicine driven hoard will arrive at our "wide open policies" and make a shambles out of the scenic and pristine countryside we have. The collectives have already proven beyond all reasonable doubt they do not give a damn about code or the environment.
If we only had to supply our own with their ahem "medicine" and county growers were okay with that it would be a giant step toward us all getting along.
Anyone having a need for marijuana as a medicine should also have their name on the card just as anyone buying any other drug has their name recorded when purchasing their meds. Tracking should be the same as any other drug to make sure any excess is in fact sold to dispensaries.
The lawmakers representing concrete jungles make laws that affect unpopulated areas more than their own. If stringent laws aren't made and enforced in Lake County the news will spread to counties with higher land prices and a money driven, not medicine driven hoard will arrive at our "wide open policies" and make a shambles out of the scenic and pristine countryside we have. The collectives have already proven beyond all reasonable doubt they do not give a damn about code or the environment.
If we only had to supply our own with their ahem "medicine" and county growers were okay with that it would be a giant step toward us all getting along.
Anyone having a need for marijuana as a medicine should also have their name on the card just as anyone buying any other drug has their name recorded when purchasing their meds. Tracking should be the same as any other drug to make sure any excess is in fact sold to dispensaries.
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written by ca215, July 13, 2012
I should have written "LOL, wouldn't it be a laugh if the med FOR the above attitudinal ailment turned out to be MMJ?"
Excuse me, everyone.
Excuse me, everyone.
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written by ca215, July 13, 2012
People who apparently have no medical ailment are doing the moan and wail about those of use who do and who find that MMJ does give some relief.
Big Pharma tosses drugs at sick people with never a thought given to the adverse effects of the C*** that makes BP's stockholders richer every day. It doesn't matter to BP what happens to us. "Oh, you have arthritis? Here. Take this drug. No, it wasn't formulated for people who have the sort of arthritis you have and yes, it might be lethal to you but when the med kills you, you will no longer have arthritis.
What especially makes me LOL are the commercials about depression. "Oh, here. Here's some stuff that was made for people who have epilepsy. What? Oh I know you don't have epilepsy, you came to me because you have Fibromyalgia pain. The FDA says that this med works for nearly everything. Well yes, what you heard about this med causing a lot of people to develop diabetes even if they had hypoglycemia" (get the dictionary out again) "before they tried the epilepsy medication."
"Yes it's also true that there are many as bad or worse effects than the diabetes I already mentioned but if I'm the doctor and I don't care, why should you care? Oh you are going to trot out that 'It's MY body' thing, aren't you, or that 'Patient Bill of Rights' which you claim has words in it about how patients can refuse a course of treatment." Then doctor leaves the office only to return red-faced and silent until s/he says: "Fine. Since you are the doctor here, I'm going to prescribe something ELSE for you. Of course I know you will find some piddly little reason for not using the med...."
PIDDLY LIKE DEATH, DOC? Or just Not Made for Anything That's Wrong With Me?
Another truth: not every MMJ pain or other ailment-suffering patient can grow his or her own medicine. For one thing the patient may have agreed with the housing owner that no MMJ will be grown onsite because it's in the rental agreement and the tenant wishes to be honest with the landlord. And: the tenant may wish not to be evicted because of disobeying the tenets in the rental agreement. Fussy of the MMJ patient/housing tenant, I know, but there it is.
Oh, some doctors carefully chosen to give the response you knew they would give try to shout down the multi-thousands of WE MMJ PAIN (for instance) PATIENTS actually did voice the response you wanted them to give? Congratulations.
What's the medication for "I know more than you do because I say so and I don't have to offer real proof or even do any balanced reading of the pros and cons of an issue?"
LOL, wouldn't it be a laugh if the med the above attitudinal ailment turned out to be MMJ?
Big Pharma tosses drugs at sick people with never a thought given to the adverse effects of the C*** that makes BP's stockholders richer every day. It doesn't matter to BP what happens to us. "Oh, you have arthritis? Here. Take this drug. No, it wasn't formulated for people who have the sort of arthritis you have and yes, it might be lethal to you but when the med kills you, you will no longer have arthritis.
What especially makes me LOL are the commercials about depression. "Oh, here. Here's some stuff that was made for people who have epilepsy. What? Oh I know you don't have epilepsy, you came to me because you have Fibromyalgia pain. The FDA says that this med works for nearly everything. Well yes, what you heard about this med causing a lot of people to develop diabetes even if they had hypoglycemia" (get the dictionary out again) "before they tried the epilepsy medication."
"Yes it's also true that there are many as bad or worse effects than the diabetes I already mentioned but if I'm the doctor and I don't care, why should you care? Oh you are going to trot out that 'It's MY body' thing, aren't you, or that 'Patient Bill of Rights' which you claim has words in it about how patients can refuse a course of treatment." Then doctor leaves the office only to return red-faced and silent until s/he says: "Fine. Since you are the doctor here, I'm going to prescribe something ELSE for you. Of course I know you will find some piddly little reason for not using the med...."
PIDDLY LIKE DEATH, DOC? Or just Not Made for Anything That's Wrong With Me?
Another truth: not every MMJ pain or other ailment-suffering patient can grow his or her own medicine. For one thing the patient may have agreed with the housing owner that no MMJ will be grown onsite because it's in the rental agreement and the tenant wishes to be honest with the landlord. And: the tenant may wish not to be evicted because of disobeying the tenets in the rental agreement. Fussy of the MMJ patient/housing tenant, I know, but there it is.
Oh, some doctors carefully chosen to give the response you knew they would give try to shout down the multi-thousands of WE MMJ PAIN (for instance) PATIENTS actually did voice the response you wanted them to give? Congratulations.
What's the medication for "I know more than you do because I say so and I don't have to offer real proof or even do any balanced reading of the pros and cons of an issue?"
LOL, wouldn't it be a laugh if the med the above attitudinal ailment turned out to be MMJ?
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 12, 2012
To my dictionary twice but I never heard you address environmental issues, permit issues, smells in my yard issues. Gratuitous? How about the people who share a fence with a backyard containing 100 plants and three Pit Bulls that lunge at her fence everything her children go outside to play. Is your solution to have them play in the street? Darn kids are infringing on the marijuana growers right.
I agree. Anyone who wants to get high on Marijuana and is of legal age should be allowed. So lets beat the drum together to legalize it nation wide. Lets create a glut. 25 cents a joint prices. That will take the medical issue out of the discussion. Until then medical marijuana is hypocrisy for 99 percent of the growers.
When is so cheap anyone can afford it and its grown in 1000 acre fields, lets see how many people want to grow their own medicine. Lets see if they even call it medicine anymore.
I agree. Anyone who wants to get high on Marijuana and is of legal age should be allowed. So lets beat the drum together to legalize it nation wide. Lets create a glut. 25 cents a joint prices. That will take the medical issue out of the discussion. Until then medical marijuana is hypocrisy for 99 percent of the growers.
When is so cheap anyone can afford it and its grown in 1000 acre fields, lets see how many people want to grow their own medicine. Lets see if they even call it medicine anymore.
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written by Rex, July 12, 2012
...flatus of the mouth, either. And 'Placebo Effect' is what it's called when something works for psychosomatic reasons Start bottling snake oil now, you won't be first or last. I won't look in your bottle if you don't look in mine. (Seen any weightloss infomercials lately?...)
The status quo does not have to be put forth as a conspiracy. Only a polemicist would do so. I don't blame doctors for thinking inside their comfortable, well-paid box. I don't even begrudge you your opinion. Just please stop trying to make facts out of feelings.
"Preposterous ailments" like glaucoma, epilepsy, cancer....... Not everyone is that sick. Will you be the one runnung the 'sick meter'? People ought to be able to grow their own 'medicine', if they call it that. Maybe some can't afford to drive across county and pay dispensary for the miracle cure. And what's wrong if someone actually does enjoy a joint? We don't really have a problem with what others peacefully pursue on their own property, do we?...(If so, we open a Pandora's Box of control issue questions.)
Hmmmm....
"...pitbulls & guns..." That's just gratuitous. I won't trade freedom for (a false sense of) security. No matter how much you fearmonger. Find an alcoholic speedfreak to stab strays in your neighborhood. It won't be difficult to find one around here somewhere.
Measure D was flawed, just as this 'emergency ordinance' is. Chances are all compromises will be 'flawed' in someone's view. Welcome to democracy.
The status quo does not have to be put forth as a conspiracy. Only a polemicist would do so. I don't blame doctors for thinking inside their comfortable, well-paid box. I don't even begrudge you your opinion. Just please stop trying to make facts out of feelings.
"Preposterous ailments" like glaucoma, epilepsy, cancer....... Not everyone is that sick. Will you be the one runnung the 'sick meter'? People ought to be able to grow their own 'medicine', if they call it that. Maybe some can't afford to drive across county and pay dispensary for the miracle cure. And what's wrong if someone actually does enjoy a joint? We don't really have a problem with what others peacefully pursue on their own property, do we?...(If so, we open a Pandora's Box of control issue questions.)
Hmmmm....
"...pitbulls & guns..." That's just gratuitous. I won't trade freedom for (a false sense of) security. No matter how much you fearmonger. Find an alcoholic speedfreak to stab strays in your neighborhood. It won't be difficult to find one around here somewhere.
Measure D was flawed, just as this 'emergency ordinance' is. Chances are all compromises will be 'flawed' in someone's view. Welcome to democracy.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 12, 2012
People have been using marijuana for getting high for 4000 years. Fine. Rex, will Marijuana make me walk again like the young man at the meeting claimed? Everyone said it cured some preposterous ailment so they can grow it for money. If they believe it works because they think it works I'm going to start bottling sugar water. It might work for a very very limited amount of people. Are you saying there is a conspiracy among doctors to squelch marijuana?
Let's just legalize it and get rid of these ugly fences. Is that "Screened from view" clause to keep someone from seeing the marijuana that's behind the marijuana fences? Or, is it to uglyfy our view and keep people out?
As a sidebar: How many pit bulls and guns did Gandhi recommend to keep people from stealing spinning wheels.
Let's just legalize it and get rid of these ugly fences. Is that "Screened from view" clause to keep someone from seeing the marijuana that's behind the marijuana fences? Or, is it to uglyfy our view and keep people out?
As a sidebar: How many pit bulls and guns did Gandhi recommend to keep people from stealing spinning wheels.
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written by Rex, July 12, 2012
Stop your boo-hooing already. Sure you & your cardiologist have an opinion. His is even a medical one. They are still opinions. Want to hear mine? If not, just go "la-la-la" in your mind like most local conservatives do when facts are being presented.
Marijuana has been used 'medically' since 4,000 B.C. So, the 'value' question sinks in the test of time. . This argument, to me, comes down to this: Your quiet enjoyment of your neighbor's property. Are you master of all you survey? And sure of how others should live? If your neighbor is committing a crime, (s)he is responsible.
Pick one of these: Poverty, infant mortality, unemployment, global warming. Start waving a flag that will benefit people, instead of deprive them of their medicine. Medicine. It's not like a statin that'll make some drug corporation millions, so we don't have a big P.R. campaign, or near as many lobbyists. But people (enough to vote in Prop. 215) believe it works for them. If they believe it works, then it does work...for them. Is the onlyt accpetable medicine that which you say is good...would it be better to buy retail than to 'grow your own'? In this broke-posteriored county?.... Would you deprive a jock of his sports supplements because your cardiologist poo-pooed creatine?
Nationally, nearly half the population agrees with legalization. Now that society (in general) has seen through the farce & accepted marijuana we need to iron out pesky details. A 'deprive others' mentality will keep medical users pushing back.
Democracy ain't democracy unless we all leave a little skin on the court.
Marijuana has been used 'medically' since 4,000 B.C. So, the 'value' question sinks in the test of time. . This argument, to me, comes down to this: Your quiet enjoyment of your neighbor's property. Are you master of all you survey? And sure of how others should live? If your neighbor is committing a crime, (s)he is responsible.
Pick one of these: Poverty, infant mortality, unemployment, global warming. Start waving a flag that will benefit people, instead of deprive them of their medicine. Medicine. It's not like a statin that'll make some drug corporation millions, so we don't have a big P.R. campaign, or near as many lobbyists. But people (enough to vote in Prop. 215) believe it works for them. If they believe it works, then it does work...for them. Is the onlyt accpetable medicine that which you say is good...would it be better to buy retail than to 'grow your own'? In this broke-posteriored county?.... Would you deprive a jock of his sports supplements because your cardiologist poo-pooed creatine?
Nationally, nearly half the population agrees with legalization. Now that society (in general) has seen through the farce & accepted marijuana we need to iron out pesky details. A 'deprive others' mentality will keep medical users pushing back.
Democracy ain't democracy unless we all leave a little skin on the court.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 11, 2012
Are the any medical benefits to smoking pot? He replied, "Zero, zip, nada, none, biggest farce ever perpetuated in CA. Today I asked my well respected internist if the office got requests for medicinal marijuana. The answer was yes, all the time. I asked how many recommendation were given out. "None was the answer". I asked how they were turned done. The answer was, "I don't do that.". My Urologisdt and all the doctors at Stanford agree there are ver very few cases where it might have some credence but a very large majority of those seeking prescriptions are doing so only to get legal to get high.
I have over an Acre. Next year I will be raising as many male marijuana plants as I possibly can allowed by law. I will also make male marijuana plants available to those who wish to infect the growers around them. Please join my in raising male plants.
I have over an Acre. Next year I will be raising as many male marijuana plants as I possibly can allowed by law. I will also make male marijuana plants available to those who wish to infect the growers around them. Please join my in raising male plants.
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written by wthomas, July 11, 2012
So, I learned from Monday's meeting:
There are people who are phsycologically dependent on more than a quarter of an ounce of pot per day.
Some people feel the need to bathe in the stuff, which requires pounds of pot, not ounces.
Some people believe they need huge amounts of pot in order to distill it down to a miracle cure for just about every ailment known to man.
There are people here in Lake County who claim to be in the legitimate business of supplying apartment bound "patients" throughout Los Angeles with their "medicine".
The people who are arguing for all this "compassionate" use have little or no compassion for their neighbors, who's quality of life is being directly affected by their actions.
Things I already knew were:
Gang/cartel types set up a grow site in our neighborhood a few months back.
Some property owners here in Lake County are willing to sell out their neighborhoods for money.
Likewise there are unethical realtors here in Lake County who are happy to market to mercenary growers in pursuit of a commission.
Over the last few years at least two killings directly related to marijuana cultivation have occurred in the area where I reside.
Every single one of the folks I know personally who are growing "medical" marijuana like to smoke it and like the extra, tax free income, deriving no apparent "medical" benefit from their "product".
There are people who are phsycologically dependent on more than a quarter of an ounce of pot per day.
Some people feel the need to bathe in the stuff, which requires pounds of pot, not ounces.
Some people believe they need huge amounts of pot in order to distill it down to a miracle cure for just about every ailment known to man.
There are people here in Lake County who claim to be in the legitimate business of supplying apartment bound "patients" throughout Los Angeles with their "medicine".
The people who are arguing for all this "compassionate" use have little or no compassion for their neighbors, who's quality of life is being directly affected by their actions.
Things I already knew were:
Gang/cartel types set up a grow site in our neighborhood a few months back.
Some property owners here in Lake County are willing to sell out their neighborhoods for money.
Likewise there are unethical realtors here in Lake County who are happy to market to mercenary growers in pursuit of a commission.
Over the last few years at least two killings directly related to marijuana cultivation have occurred in the area where I reside.
Every single one of the folks I know personally who are growing "medical" marijuana like to smoke it and like the extra, tax free income, deriving no apparent "medical" benefit from their "product".
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written by Marzocco, July 10, 2012
Maybe our BOS should heed the old proverb: Defecate or get off the porcelain throne.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 09, 2012
Just got back from the BOS backyard pot grower meeting on illegal pot grows. Full of anti ordinance folks. Never saw a healthier bunch of "Patients" in my life.
Peter Windrem made an eloquent speech covering every concern of the Lake County Majority. He nailed it point by point. Thank you Peter for stepping forward.
Peter Windrem made an eloquent speech covering every concern of the Lake County Majority. He nailed it point by point. Thank you Peter for stepping forward.
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written by Greg_Cornish, July 09, 2012
You two are still living in a dream world when interpreting the results of the Measure D vote. I think the ones who voted "No" on Measure D realize what a farce this medical marijuana issue has become. Riddled with loopholes that let profit growers piggyback the issue.
Just as good things were starting to come to Lake County with legitimate businesses who follow the rule and get permits are giving us a look we are wasting time dealing with this fraud.
The 66% who voted against Measure D, realize that 6 plants will not only satisfy your medical needs, it'll keep you prostrate for a year.
Just as good things were starting to come to Lake County with legitimate businesses who follow the rule and get permits are giving us a look we are wasting time dealing with this fraud.
The 66% who voted against Measure D, realize that 6 plants will not only satisfy your medical needs, it'll keep you prostrate for a year.
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written by deniserushing, July 09, 2012
After reading your commentary, I looked through my email responses to you and there were several in the thread including one where I wrote that I had called on both the sheriff and code enforcement regarding the grow in your neighborhood based upon the photos you sent. (followed up by my urgent plea to both departments to help out in your circumstance) I also indicated in my emails that the ordinance the Board unanimously passed last year needed to be rescinded due to the measure D initiative process. I prefer not to answer public forum comments, but wanted to set the record straight.
It appears to me that your commentary is not as much a complaint about my email response as it an attempt to suggest publicly that I don't care, and in doing so influence my position on this polarizing and complicated topic. You and anyone reading this can rest assured that I do care and that I will do my best to sort this out as fairly as I can, as I trust others on the Board will do as well.
As I said it is usually not my policy to comment online, so I will not be entering into a dialog in this forum. However, you or anyone else who wants to weigh in can email me at denise.rushing@lakecountyca.gov. I read them all personally.
Denise Rushing
It appears to me that your commentary is not as much a complaint about my email response as it an attempt to suggest publicly that I don't care, and in doing so influence my position on this polarizing and complicated topic. You and anyone reading this can rest assured that I do care and that I will do my best to sort this out as fairly as I can, as I trust others on the Board will do as well.
As I said it is usually not my policy to comment online, so I will not be entering into a dialog in this forum. However, you or anyone else who wants to weigh in can email me at denise.rushing@lakecountyca.gov. I read them all personally.
Denise Rushing
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written by the law show, July 09, 2012
As a member of the committee, Ms. Rushing is wise to reserve her judgment until she gets input from all channels and works with the other commuter members before telling you or anyone how she will vote. Mr. Cornish represents one very extreme position on this issue much as pot profiteers represent the other extreme. The middle may be the most sensible place for Supervisor Rushing to be. Give the committee a chanc was the rallying cry during the anti Measure D campaign. Let's try that.
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written by ClkOaks, July 08, 2012
Measure D was defeated because there were some parts of it that the pro-medical merijuana people did not like. It wasn't because we wanted growing limited the way the BOS wanted it. Still 33% did vote yes and our opinion has value and should be considered.
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