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Home News Community letters Rosenthal: Think about it – vote yes on Measure N

Rosenthal: Think about it – vote yes on Measure N

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Ron Green continues to bring up the point that Measure N forces many medical marijuana patients to grow their medicine indoors.

He cites increased power costs as one of the problems and has mentioned “thousands of dollars” in past letters yet 1,200 watts is the same amount of power required to run two or three plasma TVs, which is clearly not excessive.

Ron Green and the local chapter of the Sierra Club are concerned with high humidity associated with indoor grows, causing mold and mildew growth within the home.

Yet almost everyone I know grows some sort of plants in their home and I have never heard or seen problems with humidity or mold growth.

Why should a few marijuana plants grown for personal use be any different?

If the whole house is turned into a greenhouse to grow marijuana I can understand humidity problems, but that would be a for profit grow, not for personal medical use.

In addition, I would imagine that growing indoors would actually benefit a patient in that instead of being limited to one crop a year, the plants could be grown year round resulting in a more consistent supply of medicine.

Ron Green also loves to call Measure N a “draconian” ordinance as if Lake County is being unreasonable and is way out of whack with the rest of the state.

What Ron Green and the anti-N folks don’t want the rest of us to know is that there are already over 35 cities/towns and four counties that have ordinances banning outdoor cultivation of marijuana.

Furthermore, there are a few that ban indoor and outdoor cultivation of marijuana.

Two of the cities with bans are right next door to us, Ukiah and Willits.

Ukiah initially had an ordinance that allowed outdoor cultivation, but after a few years of the same issues that we have been experiencing here in Lake County, they had to do an about face and ban the outdoor growing of marijuana.

I urge everyone to think about it. If a couple of cities in Mendocino County were forced to ban outdoor cultivation within their boundaries because of the problems associated with grows, why should we think Lake County will be any different?

Vote yes on Measure N.

Dave Rosenthal lives in Middletown, Calif.

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Ken Price
...
written by Ken Price, May 31, 2014
Price
written by W T F?, May 31, 2014
How I'm I on the side of " make believe unicorns and rainbows" just because I do not like the 2 party system? Also why would you call me a loser when you don't even know me? That really hurts your credibility. Makes you seem childish. Come on man, I don't mind a good debate but that's a little tacky.


Yes, I agree it was a little tacky, sorry about that. But it did get your attention.
I do not agree with your "two party system divides and destroys so either side to me is a waste of time and positive thinking"
And my credibility is still very good as far as I am concerned. As I do not believe in the anything goes, and "if your not part of the solution your part of the problem. " Yes on N.
W T F?
Price
written by W T F?, May 31, 2014
How I'm I on the side of " make believe unicorns and rainbows" just because I do not like the 2 party system? Also why would you call me a loser when you don't even know me? That really hurts your credibility. Makes you seem childish. Come on man, I don't mind a good debate but that's a little tacky.
Ken Price
Hola! WTF
written by Ken Price, May 31, 2014
Politricks
written by W T F?, May 31, 2014
The only thing worse than a whining republican is a whining self entitled democrat. The two party system divides and destroys so either side to me is a waste of time and positive thinking. We should all have one goal, to provide for ourselves and our families without screwing your neighbor. So go ahead and be a whining democrat, if your not part of the solution your part of the problem.


So you want me to be like you?
Sorry, but I am on the side of cognitive reality.
While, you sir are on the side of make believe, unicorns, and rainbows,
And I do provide for ourselves and our families without screwing my neighbors.
Loser is as loser WTF does!



W T F?
Politricks
written by W T F?, May 31, 2014
The only thing worse than a whining republican is a whining self entitled democrat. The two party system divides and destroys so either side to me is a waste of time and positive thinking. We should all have one goal, to provide for ourselves and our families without screwing your neighbor. So go ahead and be a whining democrat, if your not part of the solution your part of the problem.
Ken Price
Whining!
written by Ken Price, May 28, 2014
Spam and a side of BS
written by W T F?, May 27, 2014
This news site is nothing but crap and whining republicans.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but I am a whining Democrat.smilies/cheesy.gif
W T F?
Spam and a side of BS
written by W T F?, May 27, 2014
This news site is nothing but crap and whining republicans.
republiclost
john jensen
written by a guest, May 27, 2014
You might want to update your spam filter, since your website is being spamed on a daily basis.
One of the comments on this article was a plus 11 15 min. later it's a negative 14, that is impossible without spaming.
republiclost
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written by a guest, May 26, 2014
"Ukiah initially had an ordinance that allowed outdoor cultivation, but after a few years of the same issues that we have been experiencing here in Lake County, they had to do an about face and ban the outdoor growing of marijuana.

It would be nice if the people sending in stories would at least post the truth!"
This is directly from the Ukiah police dept. website.

In Ukiah, the City Council adopted a series of ordinances in 2007 to define what is allowable within the city limits. These ordinances allow qualified medical patients to start with no more than 24 immature plants which then must be winnowed down once sexing is possible to no more than 12 mature marijuana plants per city parcel, and these plants MUST be grown indoors or within an approved and enclosed outside structure.

They did not ban outdoor grows it has to be in a approved structure like a green house.
And if you live right outside the city limits, you can grow 25 plants.
It doesn't have to be on ag land, there are no parcel size limitations.
Same goes for Willits , no ag land b.s, no parcel b.s., no cops or code enforcement, or county workers, or anyone peeping toming your back yard.
All you haters can bluster and lie and cheat all you want,
THERE ARE MORE OF US THAN YOU!
Jford
Squelch - totally agree
written by a guest, May 26, 2014
I totally agree with you. Also growing 99 of anything - would be considered commercial. But I still think Measure N is taking the wrong approach. I have Voted No on N. - JFord
Squelch
J Ford
written by Squelch, May 26, 2014
It's not your right as a property owner to pollute the earth. You are a steward of your property for a short time...you never really own it. Nice mentality though, good thing we know your position.
ca215
Want carpet...
written by ca215, May 26, 2014
...in ONE grow room to stay dry --- no mold?
Duh. Visqueen on floor, walls, ceiling.
Create a VQ air lock at the door to the room.
FYI, add'l info: do not ever light up....anything...in the grow room.
If anyone in-house smokes cigrarettes be sure that person washes hands thoroughly before touching any product whether it be older plants or clones (in the closet with adjustable light) growing plants in one-half of the room, Halides above, VQ-divide the room in half. Put maturing plants in 2nd half of room, with their own light timers.
Be careful to not over-fertilize plants. Nitro burn trashes the crop.
Yes, intake & exhaust fans for the gorw room. Exhaust fan in the ceiling. Did you forget to VQ carefully around the in/out fans? Another Duh.
Staple guns do come in handy.
Philadelphia Lawyer
White Magic commits libel.
written by a guest, May 25, 2014
Anonymous posters like white magic are big on ad hominem attacks because they really have nothing to say. White magic just makes things up under the cloak of anonymity. For instance, no dispensary ever fired me. The only reason there are three dispensaries in Clearlake is because of my efforts several years ago, with the help of Ed Robey. The Clearlake dispensary ordinance was pounded out behind closed doors during a meeting Ed and I had with the then city manager. Attacks based on facts are one thing, but when you make things up they are pretty ridiculous. - Ron Green
republiclost
re ken price
written by a guest, May 25, 2014
"This is only if you are trying to grow for profit."

Have you ever grown indoors?
I would guarantee the answer is no!
So let me break this down for you so you wont look stupid.
1 light =1000 watts.
These lights are what is called H.I.D. or high intensity discharge lighting, and produce massive amounts of heat( most plants die indoors above 90 degrees, and for m.j it's around 85 degrees).
So the room must be cooled, after you use 1000 watts on the light, your left with 200 watts to work with, no a.c unit on this planet runs on only 200 watts.
On top of that indoor plants can't have above 50% humidity or they will produce mold, which is toxic.
Again no dehumidifier on the planet runs under 400 watts, and if you used all your allowance on the light what do you do?
And don't forget all the other things you have to use, pumps, ect.

The moral of this story, is maybe stop believing the stereotypes that are being perpetuated by people like ken here, who have no idea what they are saying because they have no experience with the subject matter.
Would any of you take driving lessons or tips from someone who has never drivin a car in their life?
I wouldn't either!
Ken Price
...
written by Ken Price, May 25, 2014
indoor
"written by Fishn, May 24, 2014
Not only a 1,000 watt light but you need an intake fan, exit fan with filter, wall fan, AC, heater, water pump. air pump with air stones, grow pot, and soil. If you do it indoor, you do not want to get the carpet wet so you must have trays. this all cost a lot of cash to grow indoor. Outside the sun and air is free."

This is only if you are trying to grow for profit.
republiclost
re dave rosenthal
written by a guest, May 25, 2014
"What Ron Green and the anti-N folks don’t want the rest of us to know is that there are already over 35 cities/towns and four counties that have ordinances banning outdoor cultivation of marijuana."

These numbers are funnysmilies/cheesy.gif
Oh you haters love these numbers, like they are a reflection of what people in this state want!
Let me give you some real numbers.
Ca. is made up of 58 counties,( only four have banned it).
Ca. is made up of 482 cities and towns, ( only 13 have put restrictions that are more than what the state says)
You people are the VERY SMALL MINORITY in this state, yet you want to keep pretending like your speaking for everyone in the state, when the numbers clearly show that your all way behind the times.
The only cities and counties that have these unfair restrictions are small rural ares that are controlled by special interest groups like wineries( who dont want the competition), corrupted politicians, and revenue hungry sheriffs dept.(JUST LIKE LAKE COUNTY).
Your corrupt views and number propaganda will not change anything.
whitemagic
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written by whitemagic, May 24, 2014
Ron Green has not one communication skill. As a lawyer, he does not know what anything is only his own. Oh what a big mistaken man with little to do . He was fired from representing one of the first dispensaries in the Clearlake area. Just a bit of lake county facts. Please vote !.. He is right about one thing though Rivero needs to go. The measure needs more work.. It is up to the people now. So read and study. I do , . ..
Jford
Sorry but
written by Jford, May 24, 2014
Not all retirees have their head in the clouds. I, for one, don't want my backyard gardening freedoms infringed upon, for any plant. If my neighbor wants to grow tobacco - its his right - even if it poisons the ground it grows in - it is his right, as a property owner. All Backyard Gardeners should VOTE No on N to protects OUR rights. Next it will be the fertilizers I use on my tomatos "oh, it stinks so bad I can't go outside".smilies/cry.gif
knitbunnie
Retired person here
written by a guest, May 24, 2014
Don't smoke it, don't grow it, but don't care who does! Vote no on N!
kill all repeat offenders
I forgot-
written by kill all repeat offenders, May 24, 2014
VOTE YES ON N
kill all repeat offenders
...
written by kill all repeat offenders, May 24, 2014
You need AC in summer and heater in winter


Don't We use a/c during the Summer and Heat in the Winter already? I know a lot of People who do, and They don't grow MJ.

It's the retired people - the ones that have a guaranteed income that is fighting for N


If You would get off your A** and get a Job and secure Income for the Future You could Retire and have a guaranteed Income Like the Retired People You hate so much.

RETIRED AND LOVING IT!
Fishn
indoor
written by Fishn, May 24, 2014
Not only a 1,000 watt light but you need an intake fan, exit fan with filter, wall fan, AC, heater, water pump. air pump with air stones, grow pot, and soil. If you do it indoor, you do not want to get the carpet wet so you must have trays. this all cost a lot of cash to grow indoor. Outside the sun and air is free.
Jford
Growers and their families- Why worry
written by a guest, May 24, 2014
Why worry about Measure N. If the 215 Growers, the Grower's families, the Grower's friends and anyone that does not want a law to infringe on our freedoms VOTE NO on N. There is nothing to worry about.
It's the retired people - the ones that have a guaranteed income that is fighting for N. Show these people that not just low-lifes like to grow cannabis. GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!
Vote No on N. It's that simple. No worries.smilies/cool.gif
W T F?
...
written by W T F?, May 23, 2014
And furthermore, the writer of this story, again knows nothing about growing cannabis, no mold problems indoors? Only for the experienced growers. 1200 watts is a joke when 1 light is 1000 watts. You need AC in summer and heater in winter. Again you guys have such a strong opinion and you know NOTHING about the subject.
W T F?
Backwards
written by W T F?, May 23, 2014
You guys are so worried about a plant, meanwhile there's a pill epidemic taking hold on our county and our high schools. Your barking up the wrong tree, again. I'm not surprised. If your not a rich business owner or privileged elite, your not heard. You hear us now?
ou812
Yes on N
written by a guest, May 23, 2014
Ron Green is as dishonest as his used-to-be buddy Rivero when it comes to marijuana.

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